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Preparing for REDSKINS DYNASTY!

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I smell DYNASTY for the 2010s! Why?

-Fired the team tumor that was Vinny Cerrato.
-Hired a legitimate and ACTUAL GENERAL MANAGER in Bruce Allen (the history and nostalgia doesn’t hurt there either)
-Fired Jim Zorn…nice guy but wasn’t doing the job!
-Hired an OFFENSIVE minded head coach with Super Bowl rings in Mike Shanahan.
-Hired an agressive defensive coordinator in Jim Haslett.
-Hopefully make impressive moves in free agency and offseason and we’ll be in business!

Who believes the same?!

Tim Tebow (10 posts)

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  • Picture geoffnelowet said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    It looks like the Skins are meeting with Tebow…http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/03/19/redskins-will-be-first-up-with-tebow/

    I was worried that this would happen with Dan Snyder being…Dan Snyder. Does anyone out there actually see Tebow being a starting QB in the NFL?

    This seriously makes me cringe. I hope we don’t draft him. I don’t care how great his intangibles/effort/leadership/maturity/toughness is, I just can’t see him being any good in the NFL.

  • Picture Megan Shoup said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    I’m certainly concerned. I with Steve and say we go for Dan LeFavour from Central Mighigan. And I agree not to draft an early QB to focus on offensive line. Though we need to trade some players to get more draft picks in general.

    Bottom line…I want a QB in 2nd or 3rd round. I could handle Tebow there, but again would probably rather LeFavour or Colt McCoy.

  • Picture Steve Shoup said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    Honestly I’m coming around on Tebow. I still believe the 37th overall pick is too early for him, and too early to address the need at quarterback, but Tebow did impress me with his individual workout. The fact that he first willing to work on and change his delivery is highly impressive. How many quarterbacks have we seen not improve themselves and try to become NFL quarterbacks. There are plenty of bad deliveries and footwork around the league that stay the same.

    I’m also impressed with how well he was able to transition in a short amount of time. It was just 6 weeks ago he was struggling at the Senior Bowl, since then he has completely reformed his delivery and footwork. From the reports I read only between 4-5 of his throws did he revert to his bad habits, and then not completely. That’s pretty impressive considering he’s been throwing the same way for 10+ years.

    While I don’t believe that Tebow is ready to start next season, and possibly not the season after that. The strides that he has made are quite impressive. He’s always had the arm strength and does have all the intangibles you listed. He is also extremely strong and athletic, meaning that if he does ever ‘get it’, he could do some great things. The way I see it there are questions surrounding every rookie QB, and they will need to make adjustments to become quality starters in the league. Bradford, widely considered the top QB and pick, is coming off a serious injury to his throwing shoulder and has questions about working behind a center as well as his footwork. Claussen is a true junior and no Junior quarterback has jumped into immediate success in the NFL. While I don’t think he’s a bad apple I think Claussen like every quarterback will need quite a bit of seasoning.

    To me if you are going to take the Phillip Rivers route and have a quarterback sit for a couple of years, why draft someone at the top of the 1st round, who you will be paying millions of dollars to ride the bench. Despite a few exceptions rookie quarterbacks don’t succeed when they start right off the bat, and they are almost never successful in year one (or two). I would like the Redskins to draft a project like LeFevour, Tebow or Jevan Snead in between rounds 3-4 (hopefully they can add some extra picks including a third rounder). And let him develop over the next couple of years. The two advantages to Tebow are that one: you know that he’s willing to admit his faults and work on making himself a better QB, which is more than you can say for others. They might be just as willing to accept Shannahan’s tutelage, but we know for a fact that Tebow is dedicated to becoming a pro quarterback. In addition to the work ethic you know Tebow has the mental part of the game down, which is what usually ends up separating the Peyton Manning’s from the Ryan Leaf’s. The other advantage to Tebow is his athleticism, while every other quarterback will be learning from the sidelines Tebow’s athleticism could allow him to be used in certain packages. If a team feels comfortable enough with Tebow footwork and throwing motion (maybe not for long term success, but to the point where it’s at least passable) they could get some on the field benefits to having Tebow in select formations. Which could end up speeding his development up.

    I know that’s a rosy scenario, but it isn’t impossible. I trust work ethic and maturity when it comes to quarterbacks. Far too often i’ve seen talent and arm strength go by the weigh side, because the player wasn’t up to the challenge mentally. If Tim Tebow fails it won’t be to lack of effort, and that is something you can’t say about the Jamarcus Russell’s and Kyle Boller’s of the league. I won’t be too thrilled with hearing Tebow’s name called at pick 37, but if they take him anywhere past pick 50 I really can’t complain.

  • Picture Willypops said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    I too would be OK with taking Tebow, but not in the first two picks. He’s got a competitive fire that I like and I think that wherever he goes, he is going to eventually be very successful. The thing is, I don’t think he’ll be around very long in the draft. I think that Jacksonville HAS to get him, even if it means taking him in the first round. But if the Redskins did get him, I like Steve’s idea that there could be some packages where you could use his athleticism. Problem with that is, he’d have to be an active QB. That means that if you didn’t want him to be your first QB off the bench if an injury to your starter occurred, then you would have to use an activated player designation on him using up a spot that might be needed elsewhere. But if you did that, I would also make him the holder on field goals so you could have plenty of fake FG options in the game plan.

  • Picture Steve Shoup said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    Jacksonville loves Tebow but there is no way they take him 10th overall. And even if they trade back in the first round I think they would still go need over want when it comes with the pick. Now if they do trade back and pick up a mid-2nd round pick for their trouble (their own 2nd rounder is owned by the Patriots) then I could see them taking him. And if they stay where they are then I think they might try to trade up from the 3rd round to get him, given the fan attention it will bring the Jags.

    As for using an active spot for Tebow, it wouldn’t be unprecedented. In some games last year the Dolphins had three active QB’s using Pat White as a wildcat QB. Though they didn’t do it for all the games. And I agree making Tebow the holder would at least allow for him to have a regular role as well as offer up some trick plays on FG attempts. Regardless I will just be happy seeing the Redskins grab a young quarterback not in the first round (and hopefully not in the 2nd), so they can focus on their true needs. As it stands now Stephon Heyer is still the “top” tackle under team control (if Hicks is truly going to start at guard). That is a very scary thought, and as long as thats the case it doesn’t matter who lines up behind center, because he will be on the ground in about 2 seconds.

  • Picture Megan Shoup said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    Please…NO Stephon Heyer at tackle…let him go coach HS football…he STINKS!!

    The Tebow plan you propose is now growing on me! Plus he’s easy to look at!

  • Picture Steve Shoup said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    As sad as it sounds I don’t envision a way where Heyer is not on this team come Sept. I just hope that he isn’t a starter.

  • Picture geoffnelowet said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    As a caveat, I think I’d be ok with Tebow being taken 3rd round or later — not that we have a 3rd rounder. I think taking him in the 1st or 2nd is just too much of a risk.

  • Picture Steve Shoup said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    I agree with that, the Skins needs are too great to use a pick on a player who won’t see the field (for the most part) in the first two years. That’s why I’d be against drafting Bradford if he fell to us at 4. I don’t think he’s ready to start from day one given the system he is coming from and we saw what ‘amazing’ numbers guys like Sanchez and Stafford put up last season when they were forced into the starting role.

  • Picture Megan Shoup said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    I agree with that! I’m still hoping for Dan LaFavour in the 2nd round but would take Tebow in the 3rd!
    More importantly…I’m SCARED they’re not going to pick up more draft picks!! Do they not understand how desperately we need youth and how much talent is out there? I want them to start making some trades for picks NOW!!